tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9118409153657833547.post4566451342993067374..comments2024-02-10T02:53:47.545-06:00Comments on Do You Ever Think About Things You Do Think About?: "Did Jesus Exist?" (7): Carrier's ReviewVinnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08955726889682177434noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9118409153657833547.post-9395263110111916592012-04-21T13:28:28.503-05:002012-04-21T13:28:28.503-05:00J. Quinton,
There do seem to be an extraordinary ...J. Quinton,<br /><br />There do seem to be an extraordinary number of doubtful premises.Vinnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08955726889682177434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9118409153657833547.post-84978371647158236472012-04-20T18:08:01.331-05:002012-04-20T18:08:01.331-05:00James McGrath is always quick to point out that no...James McGrath is always quick to point out that no one anticipated a dying <i>Davidic</i> messiah. This, of course, assumes that the early Christians considered Jesus to be a Davidic Messiah.<br /><br />The only clear evidence of Christians treating Jesus as a Davidic messiah is in the beginning of Matthew. <br /><br />Romans 1.2-6 is suspect because the intro of this epistle is much longer than either any other Pauline intro (even the pseudo-Pauline ones) and the intros of epistles in general from that time period (in Bayesian terms, given that this section is an interpolation, we have 100% confidence that the section would be longer than normal, since by necessity interpolations add text). Not only that, the contents of that suspect intro are anti-Marcionite, and the languages is non-Pauline. So the confidence that we could have in Paul's belief that Jesus was a Davidic messiah is only as strong as our confidence in the authenticity of Rom 1.2-6.<br /><br />Mark actively rejects Jesus being a Davidic messiah in Mk 12.35-37. So to say that the early Christians expected a dying Davidic messiah seems to be stretching things. It seems the Davidic messiah title first enters the tradition around when Matthew wrote.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12762450398018434571noreply@blogger.com