tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9118409153657833547.post1522518731647812203..comments2024-02-10T02:53:47.545-06:00Comments on Do You Ever Think About Things You Do Think About?: Buchanan's Error on Affirmative ActionVinnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08955726889682177434noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9118409153657833547.post-54429354610449686232009-07-17T15:25:24.302-05:002009-07-17T15:25:24.302-05:00ChrisB:
Suppose your girlfriend gives you a nice ...<b>ChrisB:</b><br /><br />Suppose your girlfriend gives you a nice piece of jewelry as a gift. Now suppose that piece of jewelry was stolen. You didn't personally do anything wrong. Do you get to keep the piece of jewelry? Is it "punishing the innocent" to take the piece of jewelry away from you?TGirschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05296761462380289467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9118409153657833547.post-67826039733676113762009-07-17T15:23:13.930-05:002009-07-17T15:23:13.930-05:00Your assessment of the attempt to remove the white...Your assessment of the attempt to remove the white male from his favored position in every aspect of American society as "punishing the innocent" seems to imply that he deserves these advantages in the first place. He doesn't. He just got lucky that his ancestors built a society that is imbalanced in his favor. It is absurd to suggest that one has a moral imperative to the wealth of his father and not his debts.<br /><br />And I'm not talking about wealth as capital here, I mean everyday societal advantages. You don't have to be born with money to cash in on being white.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9118409153657833547.post-15360988737352561342009-07-17T14:53:51.929-05:002009-07-17T14:53:51.929-05:00I am afraid that as long as you and Pat are Americ...I am afraid that as long as you and Pat are American citizens, some share of the burden of providing a remedy for the country's past wrongdoing is going to fall on you.Vinnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08955726889682177434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9118409153657833547.post-51575797008071310252009-07-17T12:13:45.329-05:002009-07-17T12:13:45.329-05:00Sorry, read too fast, missed that line.
Now that...Sorry, read too fast, missed that line. <br /><br />Now that I know you're ok with punishing the innocent, how about this:<br /><br />Those, like you, who are willing to pay for sins you didn't commit can be discriminated against. Those, like Buchanan, who aren't should be treated in a color blind manner. That way we can reasonably hope that any over-correction against the willing will be averaged out. <br /><br />So where should we put the signup sheet? DNC headquarters?ChrisBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04611311820554248004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9118409153657833547.post-8501364487881057822009-07-17T08:20:44.446-05:002009-07-17T08:20:44.446-05:00I don't think I missed that point at all Chris...I don't think I missed that point at all Chris. I noted "that the people who are penalized are not necessarily the ones who are responsible for the injustice and may not even have benefited from it."<br /><br />That is absolutely a problem and there is no perfect solution. It is impossible to determine how much any white male today is better off due to opportunities that were denied to the victims of discrimination in the past. By the same token, it is impossible to determine how much worse off any person is today. That does not justify rejecting any attempt to remedy the wrongs that were done.Vinnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08955726889682177434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9118409153657833547.post-20928029340539293622009-07-17T07:57:45.936-05:002009-07-17T07:57:45.936-05:00You miss an important point. What Buchanan is sayi...You miss an important point. What Buchanan is saying is that that system is asking one person to repay the eggs someone else stole.ChrisBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04611311820554248004noreply@blogger.com